Saturday, September 02, 2006

Why Do You Dislike the Pick-A-Party Primary?

There are many reasons why voters dislike the pick-a-party primary. Some we have already heard include:

1) I don't like all of the ballots coming in the mail.
2) I don't like picking just one ballot during the primary.
3) I vote for the person, not the party.
4) I want to vote for any candidate, any party.
5) I am an independent.

We want to know why you dislike the pick-a-party primary. Please comment by clicking on the word Comment below.

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't want the parties to get my address and start sending me mail.

Anonymous said...

It limits third party participation. If I like an independent or Libertarian running for an office and vote for he/she I can’t vote for anyone else.

Emmett said...

It promotes the kinds of parties we have, not the kinds of parties we could have. I have to be honest, though, I'm not so sad that the Top Two was struck down, but then again, I wish we could have parties that would have thrived under the Top Two system.

Parties that didn't need institutional support, that worried about civic engagement as much as winning elections.

Anonymous said...

I just read "Pierce County's Official Local Voters' Pamphlet" that I received in the mail. In it I found the following statement in the Pick-a-Party Primary FAQ's section: Why was the "Top Two' primary/I-872 ruled unconstitutional?

And the answer is:

The courts ruled that 1-872's top two primary is unconstitutional because it is a nominating primary for the political parties instead of a winnowing primary for the November ballot.

The courts further ruled, 1.Political parties have a right to control who they associate with

2. Political parties have a right to nominate their own candidates and do not need to open up selection of their nominees to all voters

3.The pick-a-party primary is back in effect.

If the above is law then I guess my question is, since the primary is a nominating primary for the political parties, why aren't the POLITICAL PARTIES PAYING FOR THE PRIMARY ELECTION. Since I am not allowed to vote for the candidate of my choosing it seems to me it is unfair and unlawful to use my tax dollars for the benefit of the two political parties.

Anonymous said...

If the party ballot you choose has no one for a certain position, you've just been disenfranchised.

Anonymous said...

The "Pick the Party" System once again fosters the major party, two party system. If a Libertarian Party or other third party has a candidate, that is one less opportunity to have the whole county/state read the voter's guide about that candidate. Since visibility and exposure are huge factors, it favors the Dems/Repubicans.

Anonymous said...

Also, I want to pick any candidate, any party, in rank ordered, IRV fashion!

Anonymous said...

I do not vote party lines. I vote for the person I think is the best candidate. The Pick-A-Party system prevents me from doing that.

Anonymous said...

I really don't mind it. Some of the commenters here don't seem to understand the difference between the primary election and the general election. The primary isn't your final vote, it's just a chance for the parties to narrow down who they nominate for the general election.

The parties can't get your address, because your ballot is secret and your party choice isn't recorded. You can still vote for whoever you want in the general election. If the party you picked didn't nominate anyone for a certain position, (1) blame the party for dropping the ball, (2) you can still vote for someone in that position in the general election.

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Anonymous said...

My answer is "All of the above".

The federal Constitution was drafted to give individuals unprecidented freedoms, including the right to vote for whomever one desired. Now both federal and state laws are restricting this fundamental right. Election systems have regressed to the point that the two party system has gerrymandered the country into polarized gridlock.

All levels of government in this nation desperately need a new election system that incorporates Instant Runoff Voting, voting districts that match geographic reality, relies 100% on public funds appropriated equally on all citizens, and that is blind to party affiliation.

Any system that continues to empower the entrenched political parties and their corporate handlers is a disservice to our so-called democracy.

Anonymous said...

Getting rid of the Pick a Party system by replacing it with a top two would be bad for new ideas and new parties. Replacing it with an IRV would be a boon to nearly everyone. IRV fosters a more civil discourse, as candidates may need to attract 2nd and 3rd choices by voters and, perhaps most importantly, requires that the winner get a majority of votes.

I am so grateful to Pierce County for putting this on the ballot and I hope and pray that Pierce County voters are intelligent enough to endorse this great idea to take back our democracy!

Anonymous said...

If the Democrats and Republicans have declared they are private parties, let them pay for their own primaries!

Anonymous said...

I liked the blanket primary. Why did the parties take it away? I want my blanket primary back!

Anonymous said...

If the party hacks like it, I hate it.

Anonymous said...

Next thing you know the parties will make us register to vote by party. That would be a violation of voter privacy.

Anonymous said...

What I dislike is the fact that one side or the other could "cross-over" vote. Lets say one party does not have any "true" primary challenges. That party could urge all their people to vote for a weaker canidate on the other parties ballot. This could actually turn the tide in some elections.

Anonymous said...

You're an idiot.

Anybody who can't get it through their heads that the old system was unconstitutional is an idiot.

Anyone who doesn't understand that IRV with two dominant parties doesn't work is an idiot.

Shut up.

Anonymous said...

Ken Dolan is confused: the Pick-A-Party Primary does nothing to third party candidates. They are still eligible to run for office, and appear on the ballot in November when people are actually elected. The Grange's "Top Two" proposal is the only suggestion out there, that prevents voters from seeing third party candidates in November.

Anonymous said...

Why does the state pay for Primary Elections? That's a good question, and I think it has a good answer. The State did not do this for the first 125 or 130 years of the Republic, and Political Parties ran their own nominating processes. These were often felt to be corrup, culminating in back room deals between a few big-wigs behind the scenes at the Convention. In the early 20th Century, reformers across the nation jumped on the idea that they could institute mandatory public elections, to cut down on the wheeling and dealing between Party insiders.

My Precinct Caucus in 2004 had about 50 voters. The Primary turned out more than 250 voters in my Party. Only one person in five participated in the face-to-face meeting. The State is paying so the other 4 out of 5 have the chance to participate in the nominating process.

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The Two Party system is not caused by Primary Elections. There were only two parties long before there were Primaries, and Teddy Roosevelt's attempt to establish a Third Party was crushed before Primary Elections were in place. In fact, Primaries were designed to take the power of selection away from Party Insiders, and put it in the hands of a broader base of Party Members.

The Two Party system is caused by the fact that every seat is elected separately. Each election has one winner, and some collection of losers. If the losers can't find a single candidate that brings them together, they will continue to lose. Look at the way the Perot and Nader candidacies affected the Presidential elections, and you will see that when voters can't agree on a single candidate to represent them, they lose. If you want representation of minority opinions (minor parties), you must change the election law so a candidate can be seated with a minority of the votes. There are a number of ways to do this, but IRV is not one of them.

IRV does nothing to solve the Two-Party problem, because it still results in a single winner, who must have more than 50% of the votes to win. Minor Party candidates may get a larger minority of the votes in the first round, but they will still not be able to win elections and hold actual power in the government. I believe it is an interesting option for replacing Primary Elections inside the Parties, but it will not create opportunities for Third Party or Independent candidates.

Anonymous said...

I dislike it for many reasons, but this specific one is going to really irk me this coming Tuesday at the polls: while I can choose to not participate in it (by skipping down to the NP races) I can not keep that decision private. My NP votes would stay secret, but not the fact that I am not declaring myself D or R. I feel this violates my ballot secrecy. You see, in King County at least, the ballot will not go through the Accuvote counter if the pick-a-party oval is not filled in. If I want my ballot to go in, I have to tell a poll worker that I purposely did not choose a party and then the poll worker, in the presence of a second worker, will unlock the top front door on the Accuvote base & hold down the "Yes" button while I insert the ballot a second time. Pretty hard to do this secretly; it's not usually isolated from other voters. If I'm quick & they are not right on top of things, I may put it in the side pocket to be counted later but I will probably be questioned as to why (which is reasonable: doing so will make more work for them) so it won't stay private. Why should I care, when I am usually quite vocal about my dislike for pick-a-party? Partly the principle: the R & D voters are allowed ballot secrecy in the primary but I'm not. They can choose to leave any race blank without anyone else knowing it, but an "independent" voter cannot. Also, these poll workers are my neighbors & I may or may not want them to know. I shouldn't have to use an absentee ballot just to have my privacy guarenteed. (I wish I were a voter in Pierce County right now!)

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The classic man's suit has hardly changed for over a hundred years. True, there are several versions for various situations, but they are all common in their pursuit of a clever, sharp look for the person. The best part about classic style for men is that it's simply stylish simply neat. A well-groomed man can almost always look his sharpest in a well-tailored suit, and it is a testament to the design of such apparel. A suit will undoubtedly be used to work in several occupations due to the professional search it offers to the wearer, instilling a feeling of respect and trust. Similarly a match will be worn to several social functions, like a tuxedo to a black-tie event. This extraordinary flexibility which allows suits to be used in almost all functions is what gives it its timeless side and a permanent place in men's fashion.

Modern movements in classic men's style

Though common men's styles will never be replaced, it is interesting to remember that shifts in men's fashion trends have brought certain basic garments back into fashion. The acceptance of vintage clothing, especially, has taken back a wide-variety of classic types into men's wardrobes, such as that of the dandy man. 'Dandy'is a term used to make reference to men who dress yourself in a classic yet luxurious way, operating in a sophisticated manner and placing value on appearance. This pattern for nearly'over-the-top'common fashion for men is evident from events including the'Tweed Run', wherever men and girls of all ages dress yourself in obviously Victorian-style attire and decide to try the roads on vintage bicycles - with lots of the men wearing impeccable mustaches! This really is just one of several types of proof displaying the resurgence of such styles. Additionally, there are numerous blogs on line which concentrate on gentlemanly type - such as'The Dandy Project'and'Dandyism'- as well as entire internet sites such as'The Art of Manliness'focused on giving articles on traditional men's fashion and grooming.

In conclusion, though specific areas of traditional men's fashion may be brought back as new developments, the simple clothes that they are derived from will never slip out of fashion.

"All it will take really are a few simple costumes. And there is one secret - the easier the better." - Cary Grant

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